[R] My name is Regan Isabella. I’m 20 years old and I go by she/her pronouns. 

 

[A] My name is Alix Heffron I’m 19 and my pronouns are he/him. I’m from Mattawan. I’ve lived here my whole life. 

 

[R] I’m from, super boring, Mattawan.

 

[A] Hicksville, USA. 

 

[R] I’ve moved around so like Paw Paw, Kalamazoo and now I’m stationed in Kalamazoo.

 

The duo is called Regan Isabella and Alix Heffron. I asked them, who does what in the project.

 

[R] All of them I sing and some of them he sings and then…

 

[A] I mainly play guitar. Our first thing we ever did was back in the spring of 2020. 

 

[R] But we’ve been doing musical things together for like 5, 6 years so a long time but our first project was 2020. The first thing we wrote was Hooligan in the Stars. It was over the pandemic so a lot of it was done over the phone, which was a challenge in itself. So it was a lot of him sending me something and then just me alone in my room singing to the phone and then sending it over and just kind of working remotely and then finally it was over and we got to come back and do it together and it was really fun. It was our first time working with a studio and I think we learned a lot about the style that we want when it comes to editing from doing that project. We doubled the vocals and it was like interesting it created such a spacey kind of sound where I thought it was going to sound more together before it actually came together. 

 

[A] We recorded at my house and then we sent the files over to a professional studio. I think it was Broadside productions in Kalamazoo. They mixed and mastered it for us.  

 

[R] Now I know how it’s going to sound if we do the double layers and what it’s like recording at home and sending it in where you’re not with them while they’re editing it. You don’t get to be like oh that’s exactly what I want in the moment, it just comes to you and you’re just like oh I got to dissect every part of this by myself. 

 

We talked about how they met and how they started making music together.

 

[A] We met in high school. We’re a year apart, so we met when I was a freshman and Regan was a sophomore. 

 

[R] We met in choir. 

 

[A] We were both taking choir at the time, and we both were relatively in the same friend group. I was the one that reached out and was like hey you wanna like do something? And I actually did it with a few other people but they didn’t stick. So I don’t know what it was I think I was bored and just wanted to collaborate with people and stuff. Then it just took off, like  it just happened and we were like oh my god. 

 

[R] We were like, we just made a real song.

 

[A] It was great, it just happened, like a snow ball effect. 

 

[R] It was like once we started we never wanted to stop because one, we got along so much before that, but then two, I really wanted to create music with somebody and I don’t have all of the technical skills he has so it’s really perfect for us. 

 

Regan said she had some experience writing music beforehand. 

 

[R] Nothing serious it was always just like little diddies here and there I mostly would do covers and would work with the school so our school had a jazz club and I would do my jazz solos and I didn’t do a lot of writing but definitely did a little bit so that was the first time that I did something entirely and something serious. 

 

We talked about their other release, Kind of Rude of Me. 

 

[A] Regan wrote the lyrics with her sister and just had them and then she sent me a song and was like I kinda want to make it like this and I looked at it and wrote something. I wrote the main riff of that song and added it to the beginning and I feel like I didn’t do what you wanted at all. 

 

[R] But it made it so much cooler. I wrote it one 3am night in the bathroom with my little sister, like it was kind of a joke song and it is funny but it’s not a joke song, it sounds sick now so you did that, so yeah. 

 

[A] So it started out being like let’s try this, digitally, and then we got together. I don’t think that was the first song that we like got together and did…

 

[R] For Hooligan it was like 70 percent of it and constructing every part of it was digital. For Kind of Rude of Me was like 20 percent digital and then we got together and fixed everything in person, but we did get together for Hooligan near the end. 

 

Right now, those are the only two songs releases, but they’re working on an EP

 

[R] It’s almost out, that’s exciting. 

 

[A] Yeah it’s almost done. 5 songs

 

We talked about how the EP differs from what they’ve released already.

 

[R] A lot. 

 

[A] It’s an immense shift, well I don’t wanna say it’s an immense shift because I feel like it’s still us. 

 

[R] We hit every genre in this new EP. It goes from like crazy

 

[A] Weird jazz fusion stuff 

 

[R] To like acoustic, super sweet stuff like it’s kind of nuts and then some angry stuff, it’s like all over the board and like-

 

[A] It’s just weirdly creative

 

[R] It’s definitely all indie though, we’re still very indie. That would be the only thing tying all the things together to the previous two that came out. 

 

[A] Yeah, absolutely.

 

I asked them to describe their sound. 

 

[A] Probably like alt indie

 

[R] Alt indie yeah

 

[A] For lack of a better term

 

[R] That’s why that term was made anyway, for people who sound like nothing or everything, but definitely alternative because even when we do more pop-y covers were making it sound a bit more grungy. 

 

[A] Definitely more underground-y. 

 

Their first releases were just them, but now they’re collaborating with other people. 

 

[A] So the two that are released it’s just us. It’s Regan on vocals, me on guitar and bass and the drums are actually automated. The DAW that I use, it’s Logic so it has drum presets and stuff and we just went with that. 

 

For the new EP…

 

[A] We hired two drummers for a couple tunes

 

[R] Two drummers and a bassoon-

 

[A] We hired a bassoonist for a tune and then we hired a key player who just played an organ through a keyboard, and an alto sax. 

 

[R] There’s also plenty of our friends screaming or talking in the background of lot’s of the tracks. That doesn’t entirely count as artistic but we had collaboration in this EP. 

 

I asked them what song are they most excited about releasing. 

 

[R] Oh gosh. I don’t even know, a few of them we sung during our open mics or gigs. 

 

[A] It’s hard because the songs are so different from each other and it’s weird because usually a record would have some sort of like theme, some resemblance of itself. It’s just all over the place.

 

[R] Do we want to say a name?

 

[A] Yeah fuck it. Or frick it, can I swear?

 

Sure.

 

[A] Okay fuck it. 

 

[R] Personally I think I’m most excited for a song called mirage. It’s kind of dark, it’s kind of eerie it has this secret little twist in there that I won’t say right now but when it comes out it’s going to be very interesting to like talk about the process of making it, and it’s going to be creepy which is not something we’ve done before so I’m excited for that one. 

 

[A] Yeah it’s a weird one. 

 

[R] I’d say like, if I give a hint, I’d say like desert and scary religion. 

 

I asked if they ever heard of the band Mirages. 

 

[R] No.

 

It’s funny that you describe that song as having those elements because it is like a creepy, the album cover that I’m thinking of of this band is in the desert and there’s this person with like 6 arms. It’s Emma Ruth Rundle, her other project.

 

[R] And you said it’s Mirages. 

 

Yeah. 

 

[R] I wanna look at that now, that’s cool. 

 

[A] Do you think we’re gonna get a court case?

 

[R] No! When someone thinks of a mirage they think of the desert

 

That checks out. 

 

[R] Dude, don’t worry. They’ll never know we stole her whole idea.

 

[A] Gonna hire a lawyer. 

 

Yeah, I’m sure your mirages is really different. 

 

[R] What are you most excited for? Probably your baby 

 

[A] The last track on the record is called Tripping on Anticipation and that’s a song title I’ve had for years for like 5, 6 years probably and when we were in the process of making this EP we were trying to come up with songs and I was like well I remember, I remember that song

 

[R] I have something in my pocket. 

 

[A] I have something on the shelf, and so I was like what if we did a weird psychedelic, just kind of longer weird, trippy song and Regan was like okay you know we’ll see. Then I just kind of wrote it. I think it took about two weeks to like fully write. It’s like 8 minutes long which isn’t super long

 

[R] Compared to the other songs on it, it’s the longest song. 

 

[A] Yeah it’s an ender. It’s just weird it has so many different elements of different genres. It does have some sort of consistency to it. There’s just so many moving parts and it’s just super weird. It has the most tracks, like individual tracks, like guitar, bass whatever. Yeah I don’t know, I’m really proud of that one. 

 

[R] It’s really nice having that one on there because I’m on there like this much, and so it’s like he gets his little baby on this track like it’s amazing like when people listen to it they’re gonna be like, so much went into this and it’s all him so it’s really impressive and it’s really nice to look at so. 

 

Sounds like an exercise in maximalism…

 

[R] 100 percent is that. 

 

[A] That shit is dense. 

 

[R] It broke the-

 

[A] We sent- you go sorry. 

 

[R] Well, you know what I’m trying to say probably better. 

 

[A] So we recorded most of the EP here in my home studio and I sent the tracks into La Luna recording, so we changed studios, and we sent them to our engineer named Maggie Heeron. 

 

[R] Love her. 

 

[A] She’s amazing. 

 

[R] Goddess. 

 

[A] Goddess. And so I sent in the files and there’s like a lot, there’s a shit ton of files for that song and I think like two times in a row as she tried to load them up in her system at La Luna, it crashed the entire DAW and all the files were corrupted and it was just insane so I had to keep resending them to her.

 

[R] And it was just that song. 

 

[A] Just that song.

 

[R] It’s too crazy. 

 

[A] It was too much, like I don’t know, but yeah, It was insane. 

 

We talked about some of their influences. 

[A] Like Frank Zappa is a huge influence on me, Alice In Chains is like my favorite band of all time, I love Miles Davis, Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra. I was really into 90s grunge when I was back in high school. It’s all over the place. Pink Floyd especially, my god, that’s like close to my favorite band. Stuff like that, a lot of 90s, a lot of jazz, weird stuff. 

 

[R] I’m pretty much the same way, but like as for specifics, I like to take a lot of like the body in jazz that comes from people like Street Dive and Sammy Rae and Friends. I really like all the jazz that he said, those people aren’t any different, and then I really like alternative music. 

 

[A] Melt? Melt’s pretty good. 

 

[R] Not Melt.

 

[A] You don’t like Melt?

 

[R] Well, that’s just not who I would say. Um yeah, I like the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I like the 1975 and oh my god Modest Mouse, love Modest Mouse. Modest Mouse kind of grunge when they did Polar Opposites when they’re like falling apart at the end of the music and they’re like crashing, banging all that stuff, that’s the feeling that I want at times where it’s like your, I don’t smoke and I don’t condone it, but like you’re smoking a cigarette outside in the cold and like that’s the kind of vibe that I’m like oh yes, love that side and then I love the warm side of jazz so that’s kind of where I’d say. 

 

We talked about some of their favorite show memories. 

 

[R] I do, do you have one?

 

[A] Mine might be the same, so you go first. 

 

[R] Okay one time, this is like yes, this was my sisters graduation so technically we did not get like a gig, but we had this gig for her graduation and we started playing Bloodletting by Concrete Blonde, which is like, do you know that song? That is like a banger, angry, grungy but like sultry and sexy song. Start playing it, he’s heavy on his electric and then it just starts like pouring rain and it looked sick as hell. It was the perfect ambience and everybody was like that might have been the coolest thing I’ve ever seen because were up on this balcony under a little tent, singing to all these people and it’s pouring rain. It looks so cool. It was like a music video and that song, like if you put that song on and there was a thunderstorm you’d be like I think I’m a vampire, I think I might be a vampire, like it was really fun. 

 

[A] I think I wanna drink blood, I don’t know. 

 

[R] I think I’m gonna kill someone. No, it was like if you were in a music video so that was a fun moment. 

 

[A] That was a really fun one I forgot about that. Mine was going to be, I think it was our first performance. I think that was when we were an opener for KAR. 

 

[R] That was the same song. 

 

[A] It was the same song yeah. We opened for Kalamazoo Academy of Rock back in the summer of 2021 and I was apart of KAR for a long time and that was my last show with them because I turned 18, it was the summer session whatever. So the director of KAR, Bob, he was putting on a show and he was like we need openers for the show and I was like, well we could do it. We only did one song, and it was the Concrete Blonde song and people really like it. 

 

[R] People were like screaming and since that was our first show that was very validating. It was like oh I can do this, because I was terrified before we went on and then it was like oh people liked that? I can keep doing this, like okay great. It wasn’t so scary anymore. 

 

[A] It was a very fortunate and good first performance. 

 

[R] We were very lucky and the crowd was great because you can have a bad crowd like that just happens sometimes. 

 

[A] KAR crowds are always good.

 

[R] They’re very supportive. 

 

[A] Very supportive. 

 

[R] It was wonderful. 

 

[A] Those are some cool cats over at KAR.

 

[R] We also play at Table of Contents those are really relaxing slower, cute, cozy gigs because it’s a cafe. Then one time we played at Liquid Note that’s a very cool place. 

 

[A] That was a cool venue. 

 

I asked if they played any house shows.

 

[A] No , no. 

 

[R] Yeah we did!

 

[A] Did we? Where did we play?

 

[R] It was in the backyard of a house show

 

[A] Oh we did we did play a house show. 

 

[R] We opened for Matt Pless.

 

[A] Yes. He was doing a tour and my friend they were organizing it, and we were a part of the bill. So yeah, we opened for Matt Pless and it was really cool. It was very different from what we expected we were outside like in the backyard of some house in Downtown Kalamazoo. I don’t know why I’m saying it like that, some stupid house. 

 

I didn’t take it like that at all.

 

[R] You can write down that we said we hate Kalamazoo. 

 

[A] It was also cool because he played, he played my guitar for the show. 

 

[R] Because he came in and he was like-

 

[A] My guitar not work-y and then

 

[R] Gimme. 

 

[A] He was like, I’ll take that one and I was like shit cool alright. 

 

[R] We were like yeah that’s pretty sick you can, but he missed our set I guess he was late to his own show. 

 

[A] He was late, he was late to his own show, which like, fuck him. 

 

[R] No, no. 

 

[A] How dare he. 

 

[R] It was very, I don’t want to say in character, but like he played it off so well, like it was like oh well this shit happens like he’s a fun character so opening for him was really cool. 

 

[A] It was very lax. 

 

[R] But it was also like, kinda like…

 

[A] Superb?

 

[R] It was kind of like superb. 

 

Are you guys looking to get more shows like that in Kalamazoo?

 

[A] I think so, oh like house shows? Hell yeah dog.

 

Cool maybe we can help you get some shows out there.

 

[A] Dude that would be sweet!

 

I live at a venue so.

 

[A] Oh really? Oh at Glowhouse? Gotcha gotcha gotcha. 

 

That one’s a low ceilings, pretty dingy basement. 

 

[R] Love. 

 

[A] I don’t want to play a house show unless I can get a concussion

 

[R] From head banging. 

 

[E] Like the heater. 

 

There’s a heater that I spray painted a turtle on, so you can be able to see it, but there’s like a giant gaping hole in it just because I caught one of my friends just punching it. 

 

[R] No!

 

[E] There’s also just like a human-sized dent in it from like-

 

Just from people being thrown into it.

 

[A] That’s how you know it’s a good house. 

 

[R] That’s where we want to play

 

[A] A turtle with a hole in it?

 

It was Griffin, which is his roommate. I remember asking him like what are you doing why are you punching my vent? And he was like, this turtle is too handsome like I want to take him out. 

 

[A] This turtle is way too good looking.

 

[R] That sounds like our friends, like we’d walk in on somebody like why are you doing that?

 

[A] That turtle is looking at me all sexy like I don’t like it.

 

[Fighting turtle noises] 

[R] That’s so funny. That’s so stupid. 

 

[A] That turtle’s too sultry!

 

[R] I think that turtle was singing to me!

 

I asked them what is the best aspect of performing. 

 

[R] Being with my best friend!

 

[A] Getting it over with so I can get away from her. All of it’s really fun. I love interacting with the crowd. It’s a very meditative experience. It’s just a transfer of energy and shit. 

 

[R] I have a lot of anxiety, like sky high through the roof anxiety, so for me, leading up to any show no matter how prepared I feel I’m like I’m going to throw up, what if I throw up on stage Alix. I’m not actually going to throw up, but that’s how I cope. 

 

[A] Dude if you threw up on stage-

 

[R] It would be funny,

 

[A] We’d be known tomorrow.

 

[R] It would be funny, we’d be pretty famous. And so for me it’s like leading up I’m like so, so nervous so the relief for me comes just from how much I love singing. I know that sounds kind of stupid but it’s like if I’m sad, I want to sing, if I’m angry I want to sing and so then I get a song in my head and I’m like I really want to play this and then he can do that for me and then we get to go out and perform it for people like that for me is just so exciting I just enjoy singing the songs, they are just so satisfying to me. Like you said the crowd, crowds are so encouraging like when we played at Liquid Note, I remember we finished our set and then these two chicks at the bar were like, ‘Do another one!’ 

 

[A] Fucking encore and shit. 

 

[R] And it was really sweet, and they had us play another one. That’s what you like, when people are having a good time, you can have a good time and when you’re playing good music, of course you’re going to have a good time, so that’s what I like about it. 

 

I asked if Alix still experiences stage anxiety too.

 

[A] Like a little bit, it’s definitely dwindled. If we’re at an open mic and were on whatever section we’re on the bill I’m like- a little bit before we go on but then once I’m up there I’m like oh it’s fine. 

 

We talked about they’re first forms of self-expression.

 

[R] Honestly my first form of self expression was drawing but I wasn’t good at it. 

 

[A] Mine was also drawing and I got relatively good at it but then I was like guitar’s pretty fucking sick though.

 

[R] I play guitar but not very well so I don’t play it in our duo, but I started playing guitar around the same time I was drawing, and that one took off and then the drawing didn’t, but it definitely started with drawing. 

 

[A] I think mine was drawing but also writing. I write a lot. I would consider myself a writer as well as a musician. It’s just something I’ve done since I knew what letters were I was like dude cheetahs are cool and I would write shit about cheetahs or whatever

 

[R] Hyper-fixation on cheetahs. My first form of expression was hyper-fixation on cheetahs. 

 

[A] Specifically the cheetahs, but no probably writing was mine and then I found guitar and I was like, oh writing music is cool, you know, I like music. 

 

[R] You got to tie em in together.

 

[A] Yeah exactly.

 

I asked why music became their preferred form of expression. 

 

[A] I just liked it better, I remember there being a point when I was drawing and writing stories and I still write stories or whatever, but I remember there was a point where I was like, I kinda want to do music more, and then I started doing music more. I’m listening to a lot of music right now, it’s becoming a very big part of my life, I’m getting pretty good at guitar. I kind of want to do this. It was very natural. 

 

[R] Yeah I think I was just naturally better in the beginning at singing than I was at drawing, so then singing became the preferred method, because I just happened to be better at it. It helps when you have a little bit of a kickstart I would say. There’s a lot of emotion in singing and if you look at music as a whole it’s kind of interesting because you’re going to have your cover art, your lyrics which is writing, you’re gonna have your expression if there’s a video, you’re going to have your own personal tone when it comes to your singing, and you’re going to have your specific vibes of the instrumentals so I think if you look at music as a way to express yourself, it can use every aspect of all the creative arts. Where drawing might just be a couple of the things but I feel like for me music I could use everything. It’s less work so it’s less time but we spend just as much effort looking at the cover art for our stuff like Hooligan was drawn by a friend of ours, Finn. The instagram is @artzites. We spent a lot of time being like this art, we want it to portray this kind of sad feeling and so it was like you had that, and then we were looking at how am I gonna sing it and how is he gonna play it so I feel like it lets you express stuff in all of those ways.

 

I asked them when they know a song is finished. 

 

[R] I don’t think there’s a system, I think that we know when we aways have this one moment where we listen to it and we get a little teary-eyed and we’re like, that’s good, we’re like oh my god we made that and then we sit there yelling at each other like a bunch of narcissistic assholes, we did that! That’s what we made! I just think we get really excited and when you’re making music sometimes it’s like its dragging on so I’ll be like I don’t want to hear this ever again even though I wrote it and he’ll get like, we need a breather for a second, but then if that spark reignites near the end then I feel like we know we made something that we wanted to put out.

 

[A] The revision process of writing is a really hard one, because you can continuously revise a piece until it’s something different. I feel like it’s a skill to be able to not only step back but to know. I feel like that’s a skill that not only I have but that you especially have is knowing when it’s like good, it’s done, we don’t need to revise it anymore. 

 

[R] Yeah you really can spend forever nitpicking something. 

 

[A] I feel like we nitpick and we do the necessary things and then there will be a moment where we’re like it’s done, it’s good, we don’t need to revise it anymore, it’s good we’re stepping back. 

 

We talked about what success means to them in terms of this project. 

 

[A] Money and bitches, sorry sorry sorry. 

 

[R] That’s a bad word.

 

[A] So sorry. That was so dumb

 

[R] Very vulgar.

 

[A] I apologize um, you go first. 

 

[R] I’d like to move on and be in a bigger and better band than Alix and never have to talk to him again.

 

[A] Well mine was money and bitches so we’re on the same page. 

 

[R] Success for me wouldn’t be gaining the most people out there. I think success for me would be like having a solid group of people who like and support what I’m doing. If I like what I’m doing then I want to share it with people because I love when people share it with me and I then want that support system so that’s what it is for me, just having a solid little fan group but they’re friends they don’t have to be strangers. 

 

[A] Two people. 

 

[R] Me and you buddy. No one else has to listen

 

[A] Yeah I would agree I also think, for me success, I feel like we succeeded

 

[R] Because we’re doing it. 

 

[A] Right, and we’re doing things that we’re really proud of and we’re doing this because we love music. We love to do it, we love to share it with people and honestly it doesn’t really matter how many people, how much money we make it doesn’t matter, because it’s about the art. We want to share that art and want to listen to it, that’s perfect. So in terms of success for me it’s like, oh my god, we did a new single, new EP, we got like a back up band whatever future shit happens. 

 

[R] I think a really big thing that I always think about is doing exactly what we want, so if that means he’s doing another song with other people, that’s success for us even if it’s him by himself doing something really cool. I want us to both be happy and be able to do whatever music we want so that’s really important to me. 

 

[A] I actually do have an addition, success to me is getting a Doritos commercial, just like Jay Leno you remember that?

 

[R] No. 

 

[A] Do you remember when Jay Leno did a Doritos comerical?

 

[R] I don’t even remember who that is?

 

[A] Jay Leno? 

 

[R] Yeah who is that?

 

[A] He’s the coolest guy I know. 

 

[R] Help me who is that?

 

[A] He’s a late night show host.

 

[R] Oh, the one with the white hair? 

 

[A] Yeah. He had a Doritos commercial. 

[R] Cool dude. 

 

[A] He sold out. 

 

[R] That’s really so cool. 

 

What do you want people to know about the music you make?

 

[A] It’s nothing, it’s nothing!

 

[R] It’s everything! There’s no genre. That we are just going to do whatever we want. It’s never going to fit anything. Don’t worry about it. 

 

[A] When we write we don’t have a demographic that we’re trying to go for, there’s no marketing shit involved in that.

 

[R] You know what I want them to know? You might love one of our songs but you might hate another one so if you hear one that you hate don’t let it turn you off.

 

[A] We’re still good!

 

[R] No shut up. If you don’t like us, that’s different because I know we’re a lot, but if you don’t like one of them our songs are very, they kind of go all over the place so you  might like another one so you should check it out. 

 

[A] I want them to know that I love them.

[R] Aw, that’s not about the music hon. 

 

[A] Yeah, but I just wanted to tell the people I love them. 

 

[R] Okay.

 

[R] We’re doing it. 

 

[R] Yeah, this is probably the worst interview you’ve ever done. We can’t have a rehearsal without crying laughing, we’re like dude we need to do something, we have to get one thing done.

 

[A] That’s very true. 

 

[E] I mean I could ask a bunch of silly little questions about gear. 

 

[A] When I’m recording for either me and Regan's stuff or my own stuff or whatever, I use just one of my guitars and I direct line it into just a Scarlett 2i2. I use Logic Pro and essentially I just use the plug-ins there or presets like amps and stuff but I never use that on like final projects, I always send in stuff to studios raw so like bare bones tracks. It’s pretty straight forward now that I think about it, it’s nothing crazy. Just like using the DAW and using different plug-ins I’ve downloaded from sketchy websites. Then playing live, I need to redo it, it’s a little outdated. I just use a VOX I don’t know the model, it’s a tube amp. Very basic. It has a gain, volume, bass, treble, reverb very basic. Then I plug into a lot of various pedals. 

 

[R] What’s your favorite pedal?

 

[A] My favorite pedal? Probably right now it’s the Line 6. It’s very cool, it’s a digital delay and looper pedal, it’s got some weird presets that I really love and it allows me to loop shit live, like now we’re able to do that. In regards to my pedal board, it changes so drastically based on whatever I’m playing, whatever gig I’m doing. 

 

[R] I’m always picking the most random cover songs, and then I’m like can you make it sound gooey can you make it sound like I just jumped in a pool, like things that don’t make any sense and he’s like oh yeah, and I’m like thank you.

 

[A] I need to learn how to do an effects loop with my amp or however you say it because I feel like it would sound better and that’s something I need to learn and should have learned a long time ago, before I bought all these fucking pedals. I have a PA system I bring if we ever need it. It’s just like a Phonix star pack. It’s like a mixer, it’s very small it was like 200 bucks. 

 

[E] My other question is for you, you have a lyric at the end that you you’re sorry that you manifested that their aux chord doesn’t work unless you hold it at a certain angle. I did feel like that was brutal. Who could have caused that much hurt to you?

 

[R] I won’t say the name, but I will go into a little more detail about the brutality of it, and the person. The song is not about one person at all, but there is one person who definitely made me think oh I should write a song where it’s about me manifesting only sightly evil things to them, and that’s true there was one person that kind of sparked it but then I took inspiration from a lot of people and not just exes as you would think, there’s also people in my life who I’m like, I just want you to-

 

[A] Die? You want people to die Regan?

 

[R] No, no. Not at all. Yeah that person, there where times where I believed I was manifesting them to come back in my life other people would be like you’re stupid, and witchcraft is not real but I believed that I was pulling that in with my mind, and I would push that out with my mind and I wouldn’t actually ever wish those things upon somebody because you’re right, that is evil, but that’s where the manifestation idea came from. Like whenever somebody asks to hear our music we’re always like ah we only have two songs out but now we’re going to have like a lot so that’s exciting. 

 

Do you have any idea when EP is going to drop?

 

[A] It’s going to be like June or July I believe. 

 

[R] Hopefully June. 

 

[E] Summer bangers. 

 

[A] Summer bangers, yeah dude. 

 

[R] They’re totally not summer bangers.

 

[A] No they’re depressing fall-

 

[R] No but there’s happy ones, there’s one happy one

 

[E] All season bangers.

 

[R] I’m going to say June because I’m going to be pessimistic- optimistic not pessimistic jeez. 

 

[A] I’m going to pessimistic, gonna come out in June. 

 

[R] You know what? We’re not putting it out anymore

 

[A] Fuck this interview! Throw the mic out there.

 

[R] Then they kicked us out of the house.

 

[A] They kicked us out?

 

[R] No I’m speaking from- jeez

 

[A] I’m sorry, I’m sorry 

 

[E] Do you guys have a favorite vegetable?

 

[A] Oh I thought you had like deep questions?

 

[R] I know you were like secrets, well that one was pretty deep actually I wasn’t ready for that one

 

[A] How did your last relationship plan out?

 

[E] Any childhood trauma you’d like to share?

 

[R] What childhood trauma influenced your music the most?

 

[A] Why do you attend therapy?

 

[R] Oh gosh, favorite vegetable?

 

[A] Favorite vegetable, bruh you gotta go with the potato. 

 

[R] Is that a vegetable?

 

[A] It’s a vegetable! 

 

[R] Okay. Is corn a fruit? 

 

[A] Corn isn’t a fruit that’s a vegetable

 

[R] I like corn a lot. 

 

[A] This shows how dumb we are. 

 

[R] That’s something we could share, we’re not very smart

 

[A] No, we’re smart we’re just, no we’re dumb it’s fine. 

 

I asked them if they had any final thoughts.

 

[R] We go in between, right now for the EP, go in between recording at La Luna and recording here and they’re very different for me. Recording in a studio, I’m far away from the people who are listening, so I’m far away from Maggie and I’m far away from Alix. I’m in my own little booth, you know and it can be intimidating but it can also be a bit more grounding because it’s like when you buy a gym membership so you have to go to the gym. It’s like you’re in the studio so you’re like I have to take this a little bit more serious and you feel like you’re doing something more professional exactly.

 

[A] Which, it’s not. 

 

[R] We’re not professional in that studio at all, that poor girl. When we’re here, I really love recording here a lot and it’s a different side of it because well one, I get to swear a lot more, but two, we’re very close together. I can see on the screen right where I need to come in because my timing is absolute garbage and it’s way more comfortable I get to be like do it again do it again do it again. I get to just be like Alix do this thingy where I don’t use any technical musical words and he just knows what I’m trying to say because he’s a saint, where I say it in the studio they’re like what does that mean? What do you mean run it back and zoom it in and blah blah blah you know. When I’m here I feel very comfortable and it’s really nice to just play it on a loop sing the things over and over again, and then pick out which track I like the most. It’s very nice. He’s very helpful. 

 

[A] Aw, thank you. 

 

[R] What about you?

 

[A] I want my rockstars dead. 

 

[R] Mm okay cool. We can pretend he didn’t say that. That’s all I can think of.